Update on Foley’s Bar and the Israeli flag

Foley's Bar with Israeli flag

Foley’s Bar with Israeli flag

I wrote a short item about Foley’s Bar within my post last week about the bullying tactics of the Irish-Palestinian Society.  Today I received an update from two of my commenters, cba (by email) and Roxymuzak (who posted his comment on the Yom Yerushalayim thread), and I wanted to share it with you because it brings home how important is our support for our foreign friends, at least as important as their support for us.

Sean Foley, owner of Foley’s pub (bar) in Dublin, Ireland, has written to thank everyone for their support.

Mr Foley has been flying an Israeli flag outside his bar for the last number of weeks and has received enormous support.

His bar has also been targeted by the repellent, anti-Semitic Irish Palestinian Solidarity Campaign loons, who work with the genocidal terrorist organisation Hamas whose stated aim is to wipe out an entire race of people, namel Israel and Jews.

So, if you’re ever in Dublin, drop into his bar in Merrion Row, Dublin 2 for a few pints of the black stuff (Guinness) after which you will be seeing lots of leprachauns. Remember, Sean doesn’t serve mere Guinness. It’s liquid poetry.

Sean Foley writes:

I want to take this opportunity to once again thank you for all the kind responses I received.

Clearly what I did was a very significant act to both the people of Israel and the Israeli diaspora, and in this regard I am very happy that I played a small role in doing so.

Over the past couple of weeks I have taken a greater interest in Israel and, through your many informative Emails, I have been able to educate myself, as to enormous challenges that Israel faces on a daily basis.

In addition, I’m sure it can be quite disheartening for Israeli people around the world, to have to listen to biased rhetoric from others, who have evolved their wisdom from highly questionable sources.

In this regard, I would like to inform you, my new found friends, both near and far, of a very big welcome on the mat in this little corner of the world called Foley’s Bar.

Hoping that many more friendships will be strengthened in the future.

The Innocent Irish Publicanologist

What can I add except Hurray for Foley’s Bar and Sean Foley, aka  the “Innocent Irish Publicanologist” who runs it!  May we be blessed to have many more friends like Mr. Foley, who can tell right from wrong, and who recognize bias when they see it, even when they freely admit that they do not know much about our region.

Well done to all those who wrote to support Foley’s or who went there in person.

And most importantly, Kol hakavod Mr. Foley!  And for anyone visiting Dublin – go and drink a lechaim for us!  Lechaim!

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16 Responses to Update on Foley’s Bar and the Israeli flag

  1. Adam says:

    I’ve just written to thank him again for rejecting the haters and demonizers. Thanks Anne for bringing this to our attention.

  2. ealha3 says:

    Some little known facts that should be published and that Mr. Foley might consider helpful.

     Benefits of Israeli Occupation

    Source: http://www.palestinefacts.org/what_occupation.html

    Israel unexpectedly found itself in control of some one million Palestinians, with
    no definite idea about their future status and lacking any concrete
    policy for their administration. In the wake of the war, the
    only objective adopted by then-Minister of Defense Moshe Dayan was to
    preserve normalcy in the territories through a mixture
    of economic inducements and a minimum of Israeli intervention. The idea
    was that the local populace would be given the freedom to administer itself as
    it wished, and would be able to maintain regular contact with the Arab world
    via the Jordan River bridges.

    The number of Palestinians working in Israel rose from zero in 1967 to
    66,000 in 1975 and 109,000 by 1986, accounting for 35 percent of the employed
    population of the West Bank and 45 percent in Gaza.

    Close to 2,000 industrial plants, employing almost half of the work force,
    were established in the territories under Israeli rule.

    During the 1970’s, the West Bank and Gaza constituted the fourth
    fastest-growing economy in the world-ahead of such “wonders” as Singapore,
    Hong Kong, and Korea, and substantially ahead of Israel itself.

    Although GNP per capita grew somewhat more slowly, the rate was still
    high by international standards, with per-capita GNP expanding tenfold between
    1968 and 1991 from $165 to $1,715 (compared with Jordan’s $1,050, Egypt’s
    $600, Turkey’s $1,630,and Tunisia’s $1,440). By 1999, Palestinian per-capita
    income was nearly double Syria’s, more than four times Yemen’s, and 10 percent
    higher than Jordan’s (one of the better off Arab states). Only the oil-rich
    Gulf states and Lebanon were more affluent.

    Under Israeli rule, the Palestinians also made vast progress in social
    welfare. Perhaps most significantly,

    mortality rates in the West Bank and Gaza fell by more than two-thirds between
    1970 and 1990,

    while life expectancy rose from 48 years in 1967 to 72 in 2000 (compared with
    an average of 68 years for all the countries of the Middle East and North
    Africa).

    Israeli medical programs reduced the infant-mortality rate of 60 per 1,000
    live births in 1968 to 15 per 1,000 in 2000 (in Iraq the rate is 64, in
    Egypt 40, in Jordan 23, in Syria 22).

    And under a systematic program of inoculation, childhood diseases like polio, whooping
    cough, tetanus, and measles were eradicated.

    No less remarkable were advances in the Palestinians’ standard of living.
    By 1986, 92.8 percent of the population in the West Bank and Gaza had
    electricity around the clock, as compared to 20.5 percent in 1967;

    85 percent had running water in dwellings, as compared to 16 percent in 1967;

    83.5 percent had electric or gas ranges for cooking, as compared to 4 percent
    in 1967; and so on for refrigerators, televisions, and cars.

    Finally, and perhaps most strikingly, during the two decades preceding the
    intifada of the late 1980’s, the number of schoolchildren in the territories
    grew by 102 percent, and the number of classes by 99 percent, though the
    population itself had grown by only 28 percent.

    Even more dramatic was the progress in higher education. At the time of the
    Israeli occupation of Gaza and the West Bank, not a single university existed
    in these territories. By the early 1990’s, there were seven such
    institutions, boasting some 16,500 students.

    Illiteracy rates dropped to 14 percent of adults over age 15, compared with 69
    percent in Morocco, 61 percent in Egypt, 45 percent in Tunisia, and 44
    percent in Syria.

    ALL THIS, as I have noted, took place against the backdrop of Israel’s
    hands-off policy in the political and administrative spheres. Indeed, even as
    the PLO (until 1982 headquartered in Lebanon and thereafter in Tunisia)
    proclaimed its ongoing commitment to the destruction of the Jewish state, the
    Israelis did surprisingly little to limit its political influence in the territories.

    • cba says:

      While I don’t deny what you wrote, I must admit I’m a little uncomfortable with that as an approach to convincing others of the justice of Israel’s position. Perhaps it’s because I grew up in England, but to me it smacks just a little too bit of the “white man’s burden” of bringing “civilization to the savages” and I think that those who are inclined to hate Israel anyway are going to get the wrong message from that.

  3. reality says:

    I think he’s fantastic-does he know about this blog? i hope so. Just for him its worth visisting Ireland!

    • Harold says:

      Don’t bother. We don’t want Israelis here who support the occupation of Palestine and no, we’re not anti-semitic just because we oppose Israeli state oppression. So don’t use that lazy old line to shout down your opponents.

      There’s a few good Israelis who live in Ireland and are supportive of the Palestinian cause.

      The problem you have is that you’re so insular and indoctrinated that you can’t fathom the notion of other nations having a broad view of what happens to Palestinians at the hands of Israel. Your country is carrying out a slow genocide.

      Irony?

      This comment probably won’t get published like most blogs which are fervently anti-Palestinian.

      Oh and your reference to the increase in Palestinians working in Israel is deliberate misinformation because the increase is as a result of the increasing occupation of Palestinian land. You might fool poorly educated Americans with that tripe but you don’t fool most of the rest of world.

      • anneinpt says:

        Don’t bother.
        We won’t, don’t worry. We don’t want Israelis here to meet people who support the occupation of Israel by Palestinians and no yes, you’re not definitely anti-semitic just because you oppose the Israeli state and no other; and you do not oppose any oppression by any other state, especially by the Arabs of their Palestinians. So don’t use that lazy old line to shout down your opponents.

        There. I fixed it for you.

        There’s a few good Israelis who live in Ireland and are supportive of the Palestinian cause.

        Really. Yawn. How interesting. I really couldn’t give two hoots what a bunch of ex-Israelis think.

        The problem you have is that you’re so insular and indoctrinated that you can’t fathom the notion of other nations having a broad view of what happens to Palestinians at the hands of Israel. Your country is carrying out a slow genocide.

        Ha ha ha ha ha !!! That is the funniest thing I have read in a long long time!

        WE are so insular? You can’t see beyond your own nose to your own bias and bigotry. You cannot fathom the notion of a nation willing and attempting to wipe out another nation – the Jews – over and over again, and almost succeeding thanks to your old pals, the Nazis, with whom the Irish remained neutral throughout WWII.

        As for a slow genocide, I really must stop reading your gibberish. You’re giving me a hernia from laughing so much. How slow does a genocide have to be to classify as a genocide? If the Palestinians have multiplied – according to them though I doubt their exaggerated numbers – from 400,000 refugees (or maybe 700,000) to over 4 million today, how on EARTH does that classify as a genocide? It’s so slow it’s going backwards!

        Thanks for the giggle. You certainly got your money’s worth in Clown School.

        This comment probably won’t get published like most blogs which are fervently anti-Palestinian.

        Now why would you say a thing like that, liar? You can see perfectly well for yourself, liar, that your comment has been published, liar. You just love to think of yourself as a victim, liar. Too bad, liar. Your bigotry has been published for all the world to see. Liar.

        Oh and your reference to the increase in Palestinians working in Israel is deliberate misinformation because the increase is as a result of the increasing occupation of Palestinian land. You might fool poorly educated Americans with that tripe but you don’t fool most of the rest of world.

        What utter tripe. You can’t argue with statistics.Why don’t you ask all those poor benighted Palestinians who work in Israeli workplaces whether they would prefer to retain their precious victim status and not earn a penny, making bigots like you feel justified, or if they would prefer to earn an honest living?

        In truth you hate the Palestinians as much as you hate the Israelis. You don’t have their best interests at heart, just your own smug wish to feel self-satisfied and self-righteous. Your bigotry just shines through every word you say.

  4. Pepe says:

    For a man who claims to be Irish, supporting a brutal occupying force like Israel is unconscionable. Ergo, he probably has no conscience, and is therefore a psychopath.

    • anneinpt says:

      a brutal occupying force like Israel

      Ho hum. Here we go again with empty slogans. The occupation is so brutal that it provides health care, work etc., and the Palestinians have managed to multiply 10-fold in 60 years. Some brutality.

      Ergo, he probably has no conscience, and is therefore a psychopath.

      I really hope he sues you for slander. But I would add that it takes one to know one.

      • Joe says:

        1400 dead civilians, half of them children, in “operation cast lead”. Some brutality indeed. Isn’t there a war crimes apologist forum you should be posting on?

        • anneinpt says:

          The only person who should be posting on a war crimes apologist forum is you and your ilk. You spout Hamas’ lies blindly because of course the terrorists must be right and the Jews must be wrong.

          Hamas admitted 700 of its men were killed which immediately takes care of half those “civilians”.

          DCI/PS says 352 children were killed which immediately puts the lie to your “half of1400 dead civilians were children” slander.

          However Hamas used children as human shields so the war crimes charge should be pointed at them – but isn’t of course, because they’re not Jews and are therefore incapable of committing war crimes in your eyes.

          Elder of Ziyon has a series of critiques of the Goldstone Report in which he takes apart the untruths one by one.

          And of course who can we forget the (dis)honorable Richard Goldstone himself who recanted his lies on the pages of the Washington Post.

          And all this kerfuffle because a pub in Dublin chose to fly an Israeli flag. I wonder if you chase up hotels and other public places who fly the Syrian flag? Or the Chinese? Or the Saudi Arabian? Or the Turkish? Or the Egyptian?

          Nah. Thought not.

  5. cba says:

    I wonder what brought the Jew-haters (sorry, I meant “noble fighters against the evil Zionists who killed Jesus”) out of the woodwork. Maybe someone linked to this post on a “progressive” website.

    • anneinpt says:

      Pretty good guess cba. I’m not sure if the website is progressive or not, I can’t quite make it out, but most of the commenters certainly are progressive – if by progressive you mean “noble fighters against the evil Zionists who are killing Palestinians in the slowest genocide known to man, the only genocide that works backwards and makes them multiply”.

      Someone on that site wondered about the Israeli flag flying at Foley’s and googled it, and found lil’ ol’ me. Such is fame…

  6. Helen Murphy says:

    A growing number of pro-Israeli websites are beginning to post an alarming amount of anti Irish racism. This site is among them. The racist post has since been removed, and removed without condemnation of the racist content by the management of this website.

    The management of this website claims that one of its objectives is to ‘monitor anti-Israel and antisemitic activity on the web.’ Yet if the vulgar racist filth that this website has uncritically displayed against Irish people were to be directed against Israelis it would be quickly described as anti-Jewish racism. Indeed, accusations of being a Nazi and the exploitation of the Nazi holocaust would probably follow from some Jews. In addition, the management of this site may even accuse it of being an example of ‘the oppression of Israelis and Jews’ (site management quote).

    Yet like almost all other anti-Irish racism that is appearing on pro-Israeli websites, the management of this site does not make a single written objection to its use. It does, however, display moral indignation at anti-Jewish racism. This is rank hypocrisy.

    Moreover, it reveals that the management of this and similar websites indulge in narcissistic and ethnocentric behaviour. All racism is wrong. But for these people, only Anti-Jewish racism is wrong. Anti-Irish racism is acceptable.

    What phony morality.

    • anneinpt says:

      And now to address the comment itself:

      A growing number of pro-Israeli websites are beginning to post an alarming amount of anti Irish racism. This site is among them. The racist post has since been removed, and removed without condemnation of the racist content by the management of this website.

      It is not true that a “growing number of pro-Israeli sites are posting an “alarming amount of anti-Irish racism”. The fact is that a growing number of such sites are REPORTING on Irish anti-Israel racism. See the difference? If you don’t like it, perhaps you should work on your compatriots to change their biased views on Israel.

      I don’t know what “racist post” has been removed from my blog. Not one of my posts has been racist, whether against the Irish or any other nationality and I challenge you to prove your slanderous contention. In every post where I mentioned Irish antisemitism I brought a counter-argument showing that this definitely does not refer to all Irishmen. On the contrary, there is a strong core of warm pro-Israel philo-semitic feeling in Ireland, only it gets drowned out by the shrieking voices of the antisemites and anti-Israel bigots.

      Furthermore, not one of my posts has been removed, so I don’t know what you’re referring to. I closed the comments to several of my posts because I don’t have enough hours in the day to moderate the antisemitism that has been spewing forth on those threads. As I noted before, I reopened this thread to comments to prevent the pollution of the rest of my blog.

      Yet if the vulgar racist filth that this website has uncritically displayed against Irish people were to be directed against Israelis it would be quickly described as anti-Jewish racism. Indeed, accusations of being a Nazi and the exploitation of the Nazi holocaust would probably follow from some Jews. In addition, the management of this site may even accuse it of being an example of ‘the oppression of Israelis and Jews’ (site management quote).

      You have completely lost me with that screed. What vulgar racist filth are you referring to? Please quote me the thread and the comment where this appeared and I will remove it. You’re throwing out vile accusations with no proof whatsoever. And I call Godwin’s law on you for bringing an irrelevant referral to Nazis.

      Yet like almost all other anti-Irish racism that is appearing on pro-Israeli websites, the management of this site does not make a single written objection to its use. It does, however, display moral indignation at anti-Jewish racism. This is rank hypocrisy.

      Again, I have written no anti-Irish racism. In fact there are a number of Irish commenters on this blog who agree with my positions and obviously do not consider me an anti-Irish racist.

      And yes, I display moral indignation at anti-Jewish racism. That’s my “job description”. If you don’t like it, go away and read some other poor sod’s blog.

      Moreover, it reveals that the management of this and similar websites indulge in narcissistic and ethnocentric behaviour. All racism is wrong. But for these people, only Anti-Jewish racism is wrong. Anti-Irish racism is acceptable.

      You’re getting repetitive and boring. I don’t know and don’t care what other websites are writing, but if they’re all writing stuff about Ireland that you don’t like, perhaps you should check out the accusations to see what Ireland is accused of. I repeat, I have written nothing racist here and demand a retraction and apology from you for that slander.

      As for ethnocentric behaviour, what is it exactly that you are doing if not displaying Irish ethnocentrism. There is nothing intrinsically wrong with ethnocentrism, and if I feel that Israel and Judaism are the most important things to me in my life, what is your problem with that? This is an Israeli Jewish blog. Go and read an Irish blog and leave mine alone!

      The only phony morality here is yours, for accusing me and my blog of writing racist things against the Irish when nothing could be further from the truth.

  7. anneinpt says:

    Note: this comment above was posted in my About page because the comments here were turned off after an unreasonable amount of antisemitic garbage was posted here. However I prefer that this post be polluted rather than my About page, so comments have been turned on again here, but will be stringently moderated.

  8. anneinpt says:

    A final final note: “Helen Murphy” above is posting from the same IP address as “Tomas Barry” whose comment I deleted a few days ago. Are you married to each other? Or living in sin? Or are you the same person sock-puppeting as two people? Is the deleted comment by Tomas Barry the one you were referring to, and is this why you got so aerated? It was full of bile and personal ad-hominems, with nothing substantial so it was deleted.

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